July 6, 2025

Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: David McClam Vs. Javier Leiva

Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: David McClam Vs. Javier Leiva
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Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: David McClam Vs. Javier Leiva

The discourse presented in the latest episode of the podcast delves into the intricate dynamics surrounding the controversial figure of Javier Leiva, juxtaposed against the host David McClam's personal and professional narrative. McClam articulates a compelling critique of Leiva's portrayal as a paragon of journalistic integrity within the podcasting realm, asserting that the accolades attributed to Leyva are fundamentally superficial. He posits that true merit in the podcasting landscape transcends mere accolades and commercial success, emphasizing the moral imperative of authenticity and truth in storytelling. This episode serves as an exposé of Leiva's alleged misdeeds and the ethical implications of his actions, particularly concerning Ladonna Humphrey, a figure embroiled in a contentious narrative surrounding accusations that McClam vehemently defends against. Through meticulous analysis, McClam elucidates the fallacies embedded within Leiva's claims, challenging listeners to scrutinize the motives behind sensationalist storytelling that prioritizes profit over truthfulness.

Takeaways:

  • In the context of podcasting, David McClam articulates a profound distinction between his integrity and that of Javier Leiva, emphasizing the significance of truth in media.
  • Throughout the discussion, the speaker asserts that the pursuit of notoriety should not overshadow the moral obligations inherent in journalism and podcasting.
  • McClam's reflections on personal loss serve as a poignant reminder of life's fragility, ultimately steering the conversation towards the ethical responsibilities of content creators.
  • The episode presents a critical examination of public perception versus reality in the realm of podcasting, challenging listeners to scrutinize the narratives they consume.
  • McClam's narrative posits that the legacy one leaves behind is paramount, urging individuals to reflect on the impact of their actions in both personal and professional spheres.
  • A recurring theme in the podcast is the condemnation of sensationalism in media, specifically critiquing how some podcasters exploit others' tragedies for financial gain.

00:00 - Untitled

00:22 - Introduction to Exposing the Witch Hunt of LaDonna Humphrey

10:32 - The Impact of Integrity in Podcasting

11:10 - The Legacy of Javier Leyva

21:34 - The Consequences of Mistaken Identity

34:41 - The Transition to New Topics in Podcasting

Speaker A

Foreign this is We Are Not Afraid, the podcast that exposes the truths among all the lies.

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I am your host, David McClam.

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You are listening to Exposing the Witch Hunt of LaDonna Humphrey, episode 19, David McClam versus Javier Lever.

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What's going on everybody?

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Welcome back to another episode of We're Not Afraid.

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Of course I am your host, David McClam.

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Sorry, I have been gone for a long period of time.

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I told us on my other podcast, I just tell you this briefly.

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I have been going through multiple deaths in my family.

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One of them was my 45 year old sister in law that just dropped dead about two weeks ago.

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So I have been gone dead dealing with that and other things.

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So now I am back to hopefully finish up We Are Not Afraid the witch hunt of ladonna Humphrey and be done with that.

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All right, so if you're following the timeline that I set up, we're right on pace.

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Yes, there has been several detractors that has tried to snatch me off of this pace, but we are not deterring from this pace.

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So this is now episode three of five, David Mlan versus Javier Lea.

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Let me tell you where I am with this one.

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Let me tell you why I rethought this episode and I'm gonna tell you what we are going to talk about that I feel is a lot more important.

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This episode was going to be I was going to compare myself to Javier Leyva and you know, all his accolades and mine and podcasting because everybody says that he's this great podcaster and the whole nine.

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As things started happening to me in life, I want to take this in a different direction.

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See, because it doesn't matter how many accolades you have.

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Yeah, he every time he sends an email out, he has a little New York Times link and the BBC and Discovery and Netflix.

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But if you look at those, you have to ask yourself, are they really Emmy worthy?

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Can anybody get this particular Emmy?

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It's not like it was something.

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What I'm seeing that he did completely on his own.

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You know, he was a part of an article.

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Okay.

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Would be Dean.

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He was a part of a couple of TV shows.

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I've done that.

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I've been in full fledged TV shows.

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I've been in a band.

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Right.

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Those things don't matter in the end.

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Now I think I'm a far better podcaster than Javier Labor.

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I'm going to tell you why.

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I think that because of what I do in podcasting.

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It's not about how many episodes we got or what the rankings is.

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We're going to discuss that because he likes to tell everybody that he.

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He is constantly in the top true crime podcast in the U.S. the UK Canada and Australia.

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And I'm going to tell you exactly what that means, because the top podcasters is either between the top five in the top ten.

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If you really want to push that, I'll give you a little caveat.

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Okay, then.

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The top 100 in any given country.

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Now, every country is going to be different, but you have to post on those charts within those three categories, you consider yourself to be in the top of anything.

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And people's coming means like, well, Javier labor is top over here and you ain't top over there, and you don't do anything.

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I've never claimed to be top of anything.

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I'll tell you why I think I am a top at the end and everything.

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I'm tell you I can prove Ken Javier, but I can prove what I'm about to tell you about me and my podcast and my podcasting career.

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But I've never come out and said I'm in the top 100.

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I've never come out and said I'm in the top 300.

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I've never come and said I'm in the top five.

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As a matter of fact, you had his little trolls trying to dissect my listening score on listen notes and try to break it down all scientifically as to why anything and why this don't mean squat.

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Yes, on listen notes, I'm in the top 2% globally.

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And just to let you guys know, that score really does matter, because unlike Javier Lever, I was interviewing people like Tamron Hall.

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Yes, celebrity Tamron hall, who found me because of my listen note score, who found me because her publishers told me that on the charts they looked at, I was definitely within that top 5100 and in some cases, top 10.

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See, because I asked, how did you guys find me?

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I mean, I didn't go after Tamon Hall.

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Tamar Hall's publicist came after me.

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And I was like, wow, I'm always grateful.

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I'm always perplexed when these things happen to me.

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So before we move on, since we're talking about this top of the charts things, I'm going to dispel that right now.

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Let's take the number one leading place for podcasts.

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That's going to be Apple Podcasts.

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This right here, Apple Podcasts.

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If you want to know where you truly sit globally and truly what your number is, this is where you come.

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This is where a lot of people look now, your boy Javier labor says that he is consistently in the top of true crime podcasts in the US the uk, Canada, and Australia.

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Well, Apple Podcast reaches all those places.

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And I can tell you right now from my own analytics and for what I've researched, Apple Podcasts is one of the leading places all over the world where people listen to podcasts at.

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So let's go live right now to Apple Podcasts, and I'm going to tell you exactly where Javier Lever is on this chart.

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He is nowhere in the top 100.

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The top 10 shows on Apple Podcast right now.

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And I'll give them to you in order from number 1 to 10 is as follows.

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Devil in the Desert, Crime Junkie, Date line wondering, morbid 48 hours.

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Catch me if you can.

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2020, betrayal, Mr. Ballin podcast.

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Dateline, Missing in America.

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Those are your top 10.

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Did you hear me say pretend anywhere in those?

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Now let's scroll down.

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He ain't nowhere in the top 100.

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I mean, number 20 is rotten.

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I listen to her.

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I love her podcast.

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I watch her on YouTube.

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She's the.

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The coolest.

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She's great.

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Number 21 is the Bakersfield 3.

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Okay, you want me to tell you who the top who ends up in the 100 spot?

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The podcast that ends up in the 100 spot, according to Apple, is Generation Y.

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And if I continue to scroll all the way down here, pretend sits in the 200 spot.

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He's not in the top.

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He should be in the top 100.

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For anybody to even say, considered to be in the top if you're not there.

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And a lot of people's looking to come on your podcast, they don't even look past the top 100.

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So your boy sits in the 200 spot.

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Now, I only bring that up because it's been said to me, I'm not even in the 200 spot.

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Right?

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I'm probably somewhere in the 3, 400.

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I'm cool with that.

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And I'm going to tell you why I'm cool with that the minute.

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Because that is not stopping my show from going anywhere.

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I just did three interviews where I appeared on somebody's show this morning.

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As of this recording, I have tons of people coming to mind in the next couple of weeks.

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So the thing is, is how do we do that?

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But all that doesn't matter.

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Javier thinks it does, but because his sycophants gives him money to do these things, Javier's podcast is nothing but full of lies, where mine is nothing but full of truth.

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I've proven that Time and time again, listen to my show.

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True combo, extraordinary people.

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You don't see me bel anybody.

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You don't see me cutting down anybody.

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You've never heard me or seen me do a case that was full of lies.

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I've always backed up whatever I said.

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I gave you the sources if there were any that I needed to give you.

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I have never tried to run down anyone.

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I have never tried to kill someone or to have someone kill themselves.

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Javier labor has done this.

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He tried to push ladonna Humphrey to her ends, to where she would just kill herself.

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This is what Javier Leyva and Anthony Christopher wanted.

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This is what was supposed to happen in the end.

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So don't come and tell me what a fabulous guy, podcaster, and full of journalistic integrity that he is.

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Cuz he's not.

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There is not any journalistic groups worth their salt that really thrives on integrity that would ever touch Javier Lea.

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You need to be careful who you listen to.

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If you're not one of his trolls, or as I like to call them, cult members that just wants to come in and harbor on the fact that he's going to give you some tidbits that could ruin somebody's life and they don't even know these people.

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Okay, this is the sad thing.

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The people that he goes after, they're not even known.

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And if they are, they totally disregard Javier Lea.

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Frank Abagnale is one of them.

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I have personally talked to Frank Abagail.

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I still have the email in which Frank Abernell sent me and he says, I never listened to Javier Labor.

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Don't really care about Javier Lever.

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Javier Living.

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Go jump.

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I have been in this business for more than 30 years.

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And I continue.

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He's also told me that he never gave consent for the movie.

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He was never consulted on the movie.

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He didn't even know the movie was going to be published.

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I believe him.

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So I thought, in light of what's going on, right, people's dropping dead, what is the most important things, all that stuff I just mentioned to you, I don't think is important.

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Again, Javier Liver does because he's patting his pockets on hurting other people.

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So as far as I'm concerned, that's tainted money.

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To me, that money is just as bad as if I took money from a gang member who was out there selling drugs or putting people on the prostitution line.

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That money is tainted.

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It is bad.

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He's tried to do everything from copywriting ladonna's name to trying to profit off her name in the whole nine Yard.

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These are the things you guys should see or should know.

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But a lot of you guys are just blind because you have no life of your own.

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Or this is what you use to get off, or this is what makes your day.

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Get a life.

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Go do something good.

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Because at the end, your legacy is all that matters.

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And I know legacy is such a big word, it's always thrown around, but that is it.

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Your legacy is what matters.

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The day you die, what people thought of you is what matters.

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And there's people I know, they said, I just came to the funeral because I wanted to make sure he was dead.

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At this point, that's Javier Lever.

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Because what does Javier Lever's legacy say about him?

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It says that he's a bought man.

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It says that he can be bought to bring anybody's plate to his show.

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It shows that he's a liar, that he would tell lies on people just to get ratings or to get money.

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And ladonna Humphrey is not the only one.

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We're going to talk about that in a brief minute before we get out of here.

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So the David McClan vs. Javier Leyva situation I don't believe is even valid because, see, me and Javier is on two different planes.

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My take is I am a self made man.

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I run my own show.

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I do what I want to do and I choose to bring truth and healing to people.

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I don't go on other people's shows to run down somebody on a podcast I created that I lied about.

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I go on other people's show to tell them my story, my surviving domestic abuse, why I do podcasting to, to uplift the community and to uplift those who feel like that their life is hopeless.

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I tell stories on my show of true crime that matters cases that no one's heard of, what the importance of it is, and at the end, give a cry to let's keep fighting for justice.

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You see, Javier Leyva is no comparison to me.

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And you can disagree all you want to, but I'll be the first one to stand on this hill.

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I am far much of a better man than Javier Lea will ever, ever be because I choose to stand up for my friends in truth and not get my pockets lined with somebody who's already been accused of rape several times and other things.

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I have a whole docket on Anthony Christopher and what people has told me.

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And based on what I've been through in the last year, it's all true.

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Let's talk about this one last thing before I get out of here, because, see, it is quite disturbing.

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Well, actually, two last things, because I think I did bring up a long time ago, I did a teaser that said, can Javier Lever be a woman beater?

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I now, on this episode, need to clear up what I meant by that.

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What I'm about to tell you, you won't find because of the fact that he took it down real quick, but by the time he took it down, 61 people, if not more than that, had already seen it.

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And what I'm about to tell you, if you don't believe that everything that he said about ladonna Humphrey was a lie, after I tell you this, then you have bought into the Kool Aid.

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You have bought into the cult.

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Because what I'm about to tell you sums up everything where he's at.

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And no one, no journalist with integrity, no journalist that's trying to put out a true story, would ever say this.

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I've also already told you that no journalist that has integrity would never interview one person and then go and interview the next.

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They would always interview both sides of the story.

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A little bit ago, Javier labor decided to put out, I believe on TikTok Instagram, one of them, that he would erase his whole podcast if ladonna Humphrey would agree to come and fight him.

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Why not come fight me then?

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Why?

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Because ladonna Humphrey's a woman that you know you can beat.

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You went and filed police reports on me that came back to be bogus.

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You said that I was going to come whip your ass in your North Carolina home.

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Your little bitch ass ran to the police, which I never said any of that.

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Which I've proven to everybody.

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That's why you don't have any case.

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But you're gonna run into the police.

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Oh, my God.

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He's gonna come.

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He said he gonna snatch me out and I'm gonna.

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He's gonna whip my ass.

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Well, why you so scared of that if you're gonna challenge a woman to fight you?

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If you wanted to fight, here I am.

Speaker A

You want to do the celebrity boxing style, bro?

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Let's go hook this up.

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It could be all legal.

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We can.

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You wanna.

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Since you love money, we can sell tickets, bro.

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You.

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You want to name it?

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Let's go.

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I will get in a ring, I will put on some gloves with you and me, and you can go one to one.

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But you don't want that.

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You want to fight a woman, which in my eyes, makes you a woman beater, which in my eyes is abuse.

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Again, you're not gonna find it because he took it down Real quick.

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But you don't think Ladonna Humphrey and her friends saw that.

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If you want to fight somebody, bro, here I am.

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Like I said, set it up.

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Let's do celebrity style.

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I'll come to where you is.

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Want to happen in a bar?

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Let's go.

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Now.

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You ain't gonna make it very far, I'm gonna tell you that.

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But if that's where you at, let me know.

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On top of that, let's talk about the many times that I did invite Javier Label to come on my show.

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The many times I told him just to beat this case.

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The many time I said, bring what you got.

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I'll bring what I have.

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The many times I said, if you think that this is 100, Ladonna Humphrey, come on my show.

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And if you are right, I will.

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I will erase everything.

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I haven't put out certain challenges that would.

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Would cost me a thousand dollars.

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And for me to take my podcast down, go back and listen to all the episodes of wanna.

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You'll hear it when people challenge me that I said this, that, and the other thing.

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And I said, I give you a thousand dollars if you can find anywhere.

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I said that not only will I give you a thousand, but I'll take down my whole podcast.

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Is my whole podcast still here?

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Let's remember, he tried to follow me and he tried to have me removed from every podcast host I was at.

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He failed.

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So you would think that he would leave people alone.

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Javier labor hasn't contacted me in over a year, but all of a sudden, the other day, I get an email from Javier and I'm going to talk about that here, because it has to deal with the case that he did that.

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If he was to even go and read the own Reddit thread on this.

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He had people left his show because of it.

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He had people that called him a scam artist because of it.

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He has people that's asking for more proof.

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He's ask people.

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He has people asking how come I can't find any information on this case.

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Whether or not he tells you that this particular case, I'll mention here in a minute, was one of his most successful.

Speaker A

It seems like he's like wwe, because that's what I always hear.

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WWE will say this was the most successful.

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Now, when they did the last WrestleMania, I believe that was the most successful.

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But he said, oh, he said about Donald's case, this has been the most successful season I've ever had.

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He said the same thing about the case that made him.

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So I get an email from him.

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And he starts out that says, it's come to my attention that you're planning on airing a hit piece on me for cooperating with prosecutors on the latest charges against Rick Fernandez.

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Now, I want you to understand and read between the lines of this mail, because it is my belief, and it is the belief of many others, that Javier Leyva is part of, of the biggest reason that Rick and Tanya Fernandez ever faced charges that he was working behind the scenes with not only the prosecutor, but also the detective that was in charge.

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Now, I'm going to talk to you a little bit more about the detective in a minute, because I'm going to give you something that Javier Lea never, ever, ever disclosed to you or wanted to.

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And if you're listening and you're from that old crew that was a part of this case that you listen to the pretend you want to hear what I'm about to tell you about the detective, but let's get to this email.

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I welcome all criticism about my journalistic integrity.

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We'll, we'll, we'll just leave that alone.

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However, I had no choice but to comply with the prosecutors.

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You should know who you're dealing with.

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These people were actively harassing an innocent doctor even while they were facing prosecution.

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I've included the new charges in this email.

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You can't claim ignorance on this one, Javier Lea.

Speaker A

Now, let's back up to the ignorance part.

Speaker A

I've never claimed ignorance on anything.

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I think I proved 100% Ladonna Humphrey's case.

Speaker A

So if you're trying to say that I'm claiming ignorance because Ladonna Humphreys has duped me into believing her.

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Ladonna Humphrey is duping, believing nothing.

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I treated her, unlike you, like any other journalist would, and said, give me the goods.

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And she did.

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Second, I've dug into this case.

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Yes, I have dug into the case.

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I will say this here, loud and proud.

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Rick and Tanya Fernandez has nothing to do with what I decide to do.

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But I started to look into this case probably about a couple months into the Ladonna's case, because it was, as he says, his biggest case.

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And then I wanted to see what the public was saying that was following him.

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And this is what they were saying, right?

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They wasn't saying, man, this, you know, they didn't get it.

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They were confused.

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They didn't know what was going on.

Speaker A

Javier Lever didn't do that great of a job.

Speaker A

Now, of course, you have the people that some people that said, oh, yes, yes, yes, he did an excellent job there's people that left the podcast because of this.

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There's people that left because he started charging all the time.

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All of that.

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You can go look it up for yourself.

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Okay.

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People's wondering what prosecution went.

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Now all of a sudden, new charges just sprung up on these people.

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And Javier is telling you, yes, I worked with the prosecutors.

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I had to comply.

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No, you didn't.

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No, you do not.

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There is an amendment in the Constitution called the Fifth.

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And even if you get subpoenaed to court, you can sit on the stand and say, I plead the Fifth.

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Don't anybody ever have to comply with anybody.

Speaker A

In my opinion, Javier has been working with the prosecutors and with the detectives.

Speaker A

Now, I don't know who told you that I was planning on airing a hit piece.

Speaker A

For one thing, Javier, running hit pieces is your thing.

Speaker A

That's what you do.

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I run truth pieces.

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I don't run hit pieces on people.

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And you should know me, over the last year, there is nothing I've ever done to you or said about you that I've never came here publicly and told you what I was going to do.

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So if I was going to run a hit piece on y', all to say, you know what?

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I follow this hobby lab.

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I'm running a hit piece.

Speaker A

Don't test me on that, though.

Speaker A

I. I found enough information on you that if I really want to be you and slip down to your level, I indeed could run a hit piece.

Speaker A

But that's not what I'm here to do.

Speaker A

So, no, I'm not running a hit piece on you.

Speaker A

Yes, I have looked into the stalker series.

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Yes, I know who Rick and Tanya Fernandez is.

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Yes, I am still considering running a story on this case, mainly because of what I found, what I'm about to read here, and they have nothing to do with it.

Speaker A

And it won't be ran here because like I said, there's two episodes left of this particular podcast right here, and we're done.

Speaker A

So everybody's got to do it.

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I'm gonna do it.

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It won't be here.

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It would be on True Combo Store people.

Speaker A

But let me read to you that if you have been following Javier's coverage of the stalker series, this is the one thing he didn't tell you, and I know he didn't, because I listened to as much as I can stomach, but I listened to the detective interview and all of that.

Speaker A

He's never mentioned this.

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So all of you that's listen to his coverage and you are still wondering.

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I want you to perk up your ears.

Speaker A

And then maybe you're going to agree with me that something's not right in Whoville when it comes to this case.

Speaker A

There is an article that was put out by Fox 10 Phoenix.

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This was published November 12, 2015.

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Let me read it to you.

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The title of the article is Man's Life Changed Forever After Police Arrest Wrong Man.

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It's a fear we all have.

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Being arrested for a crime you did not commit.

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What if the crime was murder?

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It's been said that our justice system, while imperfect, is still the best on earth.

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But as you'll see, mistakes do happen.

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One mistake cost a Valley man his freedom and destroyed his life.

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The first thing I knew something was going on is when the cops flew through my door.

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Cops entered my apartment, about seven of them with guns drawn on me.

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I ran back into my room and they called me every name in the book.

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I didn't know what was happening.

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I just walk outside and it's like a horror movie.

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There's blood on the ground, blood going down the stairs, blood on the rail, said Denny Rizzo.

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They told me like, you know what happened, Mr. Rizzo?

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You just stabbed this expletive and you're going to jail forever, said Rizzo.

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It was midnight on September 11, 2013.

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A victim lays dying on a sidewalk at a midtown Phoenix apartment.

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A trail of blood leads up to a flight of stairs in apartment A11.

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Police responding and looking for the killer busts through the door and shattered a man's life.

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35 year old Denny Rizzo returned to the scene of the crime with Fox 10.

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How does he feel being back?

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You know, it's real scary.

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It takes me right back to the night I was arrested for murder.

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A murder I didn't commit.

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He said.

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Rizzo was a former loan officer with Wells Fargo bank, had no criminal record.

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That is until he was accused of murder.

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It destroyed my life.

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This is where my life ended, said Rizzo.

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So how does an innocent man end up in jail?

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It started in the courtyard of Rizzo's then apartment complex.

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Two men argued over drugs.

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There was a struggle and 33 year old Michael Collins was stabbed under his left arm.

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That severed an artery.

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While bleeding Profusely, Collins walked 80ft down a pathway and up the stairs looking for help, banging on doors, but no one answers.

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He stumbled down the stairs and collapsed face down on the sidewalk.

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At the hospital before losing consciousness, officers ask Collins who stabbed him.

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He says, frankie.

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That name will haunt Rizzo for the rest of his life.

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I never did know Michael Collins.

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I never touched this Guy never knew this person, never did nothing to this person, said Rizzo.

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Police questioned Rizzo looking for a suspect named Frankie.

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Of 11 residents interviewed, two think Frankie lives in apartment A11, Rizzo's apartment.

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Police entered Rizzo's apartment without a warrant, but after questioning him, most officers seem convinced he had nothing to do with the crime.

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But one detective persists.

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Mr. Rizzo, we see you don't have any felonies, no misdemeanors, nothing.

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We're very sorry.

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I'm going to let you go upstairs and go back to bed.

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Detective Hardena then says, wait a minute, this is the guy.

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He has blood by his door, down the stairs, and he was very persistent, said Rizo.

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Detective Anthony hardena is an 11 year veteran of the Phoenix Police Department.

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Hardena says, we're not just going to let him go.

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This is the murderer right here.

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He kept calling me Frank.

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I say, I'm Denny Joseph Rizzo junior.

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Frank is not my name.

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The detective was persistent here and he was so persistent and nasty, so gung ho.

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Described Rizzo blood by Rizzo's door and two residents who think he is Frankie.

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That's good enough.

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And police arrest Rizzo.

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I'm like, you know what, dude?

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You made a big mistake.

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You guys made a big mistake.

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You got the wrong guy, he said.

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He goes, well, you know what?

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That's fine.

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You're going to have the rest of your life behind bars in jail to think about what you did tonight, said Rizzo.

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Still dressed in his bed clothes, Rizzo is hauled downtown to the police station and interrogated by Detective Hardena.

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He repeatedly asked to take a polygraph, but none is given.

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Give me a lie detector test, take my fingerprints.

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I have no record.

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Never.

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I do not have nothing to do with this.

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Nothing.

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This is my life, said Rizzo on a police recording.

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But grow's level of incompetence here is stunning, said Michael Manning.

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Manning specializes in civil rights cases involving police.

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How thin was the evidence they used to throw him in?

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It was beyond paper thin.

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It was almost non existent, said Manning.

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At Rizzo's apartment, investigators collect samples of anything that appears to be blood.

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None of it matches the victim.

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But those results won't come back from the Phoenix Crime Lab for almost five months.

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Rizzo is then charged and booked into jail for seven and a half months.

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Rizzo is kept in custody at the fourth Avenue jail.

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They kept trying to get me to sign plea bargains.

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What am I going to sign a plea bargain for?

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What am I going to do 10 years for I'm innocent.

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I'm not ever coming out.

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I came to terms with it, said Rizzo.

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Then one day, without any explanation, he was released.

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They said, roll up your stuff, you're out of here.

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We got the wrong guy, he said.

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By then, everything he owns is gone and with a second degree murder charge on his record, no one will hire him.

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I haven't been at a job more than 24 hours and they tell me thank you for your time, goodbye and don't give me any reason, said Rizzo.

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In seven and a half months he lost everything, is homeless and was forced to live in a shelter.

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It can happen to anybody here and that's why the police have to be so careful here, said Rizzo.

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You're gonna make mistakes and we all make must forgive those innocent mistakes that are going to happen.

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But growth, incompetence, when you hold the power to ruin a life, cannot be tolerated that this man's life is done, said Manny.

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Now Rizzo is still trying to put back together the pieces of his shattered life.

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Gone in the night.

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A lifetime of work is gone forever.

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With my faith in God, I'm working to get things going in the right direction.

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Whether there ever be the same again.

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I don't think so, said Rizzo.

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Phoenix police still haven't caught the man who killed Michael Collins.

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Seven months after Rizzo was cleared, silent witness went public with a reward Looking for information in the case.

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Rizzo is suing the city of Phoenix and police department for gross negligence, false imprisonment and malicious prosecution.

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The police department is not commenting on the case and Rizzo however, still is looking for someone that will hire him again.

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I have to dig further into this, but this is back in 2015.

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If you guys know the name Hardena, that is the same detective that that is on the Rick and Tanya Fernandez.

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As you know at the stalker case, he's crooked and it has been said that the division of Phoenix police he's in is also crooked.

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So if the question I leave you with on this is this.

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If he did this to this guy, Mr. Denny Rizzo, what makes you think that he isn't or won't do the same thing to Rick and Tanya Fernandez?

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And your boy Javier Lever is all in the middle of it for the cloud and the fame.

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You guys think about that.

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In closing, I will say it again.

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As far as I'm concerned, there's no comparison between me and Javier Lever.

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I have integrity.

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I do care about my journalistic career.

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We want to call it that.

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I care what light my podcast is in I don't want people to stop him coming on my show because of the lies I put out there.

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I will go to my grave and tell you I've already proven it, but I'll go to my grave on anyways, ladonna Humphrey is 100% innocent.

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She did nothing that they said she ever did.

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The question you ask yourself is if she did, where is the police record?

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It seems like that everybody that's bringing you this story has some kind of criminal record.

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Yes, even down to Javier Lever, no matter how big or how small that it is.

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Yet the person you are accusing, the person you tried to commit have commit suicide, Javier, the person that you tried to have her job taking from her, the person that you're probably sad is still breathing, doesn't have not one drop of a criminal record.

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I want to talk about Anthony Christopher a brief minute because I find this the pot calling Kello Black.

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See now he's whining on social media.

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And yes, I'll probably put a big dent in this business.

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He might tell you that I haven't.

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But yeah, people listen to this all over Arkansas.

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I've been there, remember?

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So I know how small these areas are.

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So he posted, I think it was Instagram the other day.

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Honest question, do you think people will hurt and attack others the way they did if they knew their actions could result in someone else's self harm?

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I am perplexed at the links people will go to to try to make another human being feel terrible about themselves.

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Really?

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This is what he's done with Javier labor for the last year.

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This is what he's posting, what he feels like self harming himself.

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I don't feel sorry for him because he deserves to get everything he has coming to him.

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Really?

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You're gonna ask the question and say that you are perplexed of the lens people will go to to try to make another human being feel terrible.

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Isn't that what you, Javier just spent the last year doing?

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Isn't that what you are continuously to do?

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You couldn't break ladonna Humphrey so now you feel like you got to keep on.

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So I'm gonna add this to the pot before we go.

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I told you guys before that Anthony Christopher Javier Leva stalks wherever Ladonna Humphrey is doing.

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Well, there was a post, not even a post that Ladonna even controls.

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Right, it's by somebody else on the only name Emily Rose Lucas.

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Now this is about this girl that's missing.

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You would think he'd have the common decency to Keep his little ass to himself or whatever he has to say not to say it.

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This has nothing to do with ladonna Humphrey.

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Nothing posts about her has to do with.

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They're trying to find this young girl who is missing.

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Here's this fool.

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He's following Adonna so he leaves a post as himself.

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Don't want to take away from this poor little girl.

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But be careful.

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The woman running the page is a known predator herself.

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There's an entire podcast about her and many lives she has ruined along the way and left a link to pretend.

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So when you people say he ain't stalking her, everywhere this woman goes or post, he shows up.

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Not gonna talk about it here, but we gonna talk about, you know, the whole entire Easter egg hunt episode, which is ridiculous.

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That's going to come in the last one.

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Like I said, I got plenty to say in the last.

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But I have to bring this up now because there's your proof.

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Why are you calling the killer black?

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The Donald Humphries have done anything to you other than blew the whistle on you because you was committing Medicaid fraud.

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And nobody can prove that you wasn't.

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Just your county dropped the ball, Mr.

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I should be in jail.

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There is a song, there's many songs I could contribute to this and you'll hear some more of them, but I had the privilege of going to see Jelly Roll.

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Jelly Roll is on tour with Post Malone and he just came through here, La Sci Fi Stadium about a week ago with Post.

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I've always liked Jelly Roll because of the story which he tells, the.

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The truthness behind it.

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You know, he was an addict.

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He.

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He was doing bad things, the whole nine.

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There is a song that he just released.

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It's his new single and I think it fits Javier label Anthony Christopher very well.

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Let me read you the lyrics in closing.

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The name of the song is called Liar.

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Now, like I said, we'll get into it because there's like another couple songs, jelly rolls released that says Javier.

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Leave his name all over him.

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Here's what the lyric says.

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He says, I let you drive around my mind.

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I can't count the times you made me feel like I'm nothing.

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Play me like a fool, like a fool saying drink another whiskey, pop another pill.

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Money makes you happy.

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Heaven isn't real.

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You won't find nobody to love you because your heart's too broke.

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Now I know you ain't nothing but a liar.

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Yeah, I walk right out the fire.

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Yeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground.

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But I'm only going higher.

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I can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.

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You try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.

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Oh and now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.

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Cause I know you're nothing but a liar.

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You burned me one too many times like a devil in disguise, hiding your true colors.

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Just leave me alone, keep leading me on saying drink another whiskey, pop another pill, money makes you happy.

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Heaven isn't real.

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You won't find nobody to love you because your heart's too broke.

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Now I know you ain't nothing but a liar.

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Yeah, I walk right out the fire.

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Yeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground, but I'm only going higher.

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I can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.

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You try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.

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Oh and now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.

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Cuz I know you're nothing but a liar.

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If I was doing what you do, then you would swear I poisoned you.

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You're nothing but a liar.

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Yeah, I walk right out the fire.

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Yeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground but I'm only going higher.

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I can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.

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You try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.

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Oh and I now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.

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Cause I know you're nothing but a liar.

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And that's exactly what Javier Lever is.

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All of this stuff, all of these lyrics go hand in hand with the We Are Not Afraid podcast and what he has tried to do to Ladonna Humphrey.

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But guess what, Javier Podcast of the Podcaster.

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Once again I'm gonna give you that big old word you hate to hear.

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You failed foreign guys.

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Stay tuned into this episode.

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The only thing I can tell you if you have a loved one or someone who's doing evil like Javier Leyva and Anthony Christopher, life is too short.

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I just told you my sister in law dropped dead two weeks ago at 45.

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Nothing was wrong with her, just gone.

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Every time you open up your newspaper, you got people that is dead.

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I know it's celebrity, but there's been two, three a day.

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It feels like for the last two, three months.

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The time to stop doing evil is now.

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Make amends to that person.

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Tell the people you love that you love them and don't ever say false things about anybody for a dollar.

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Especially if you know that it's not true.

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All right, so we're on pace.

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The next episode you'll hear from us will be the ladonna Humphrey episode.

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Don't know when that's coming.

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Hopefully the next week or so.

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But we are in the middle of planning my sister in law's memorial and then that will take place.

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So hopefully I get that all to you soon.

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But yes, we're now going to episode four, the interview with Ladonna Humphrey.

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And after that will be the last one where I'm gonna come and tell you everything that I feel about the potential podcast.

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What I think about wanna, which is we're not afraid the people involved in that.

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And then we're going to go, you want your popcorn and your whatever you drink.

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Ready for that one?

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That may be a a long episode.

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We ending it on a bang.

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All right, thank you guys for joining me today.

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Always remember, although it does not feel like it right now, love always conquers hate.

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I'll catch you guys the next time.

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To contact us and to see all of the evidence presented today's show, make sure you click on the link tree link in the show notes.

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We Are Not Afraid is hosted and Produced by David McClam Photography is done by the talented Connie Blott of SLB Photography.

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Intro Outro music Missing Evidence by Mark Fabian.

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Thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one.