Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: David McClam Vs. Javier Leiva


The discourse presented in the latest episode of the podcast delves into the intricate dynamics surrounding the controversial figure of Javier Leiva, juxtaposed against the host David McClam's personal and professional narrative. McClam articulates a compelling critique of Leiva's portrayal as a paragon of journalistic integrity within the podcasting realm, asserting that the accolades attributed to Leyva are fundamentally superficial. He posits that true merit in the podcasting landscape transcends mere accolades and commercial success, emphasizing the moral imperative of authenticity and truth in storytelling. This episode serves as an exposé of Leiva's alleged misdeeds and the ethical implications of his actions, particularly concerning Ladonna Humphrey, a figure embroiled in a contentious narrative surrounding accusations that McClam vehemently defends against. Through meticulous analysis, McClam elucidates the fallacies embedded within Leiva's claims, challenging listeners to scrutinize the motives behind sensationalist storytelling that prioritizes profit over truthfulness.
Takeaways:
- In the context of podcasting, David McClam articulates a profound distinction between his integrity and that of Javier Leiva, emphasizing the significance of truth in media.
- Throughout the discussion, the speaker asserts that the pursuit of notoriety should not overshadow the moral obligations inherent in journalism and podcasting.
- McClam's reflections on personal loss serve as a poignant reminder of life's fragility, ultimately steering the conversation towards the ethical responsibilities of content creators.
- The episode presents a critical examination of public perception versus reality in the realm of podcasting, challenging listeners to scrutinize the narratives they consume.
- McClam's narrative posits that the legacy one leaves behind is paramount, urging individuals to reflect on the impact of their actions in both personal and professional spheres.
- A recurring theme in the podcast is the condemnation of sensationalism in media, specifically critiquing how some podcasters exploit others' tragedies for financial gain.
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Speaker AI am your host, David McClam.
Speaker AYou are listening to Exposing the Witch Hunt of LaDonna Humphrey, episode 19, David McClam versus Javier Lever.
Speaker AWhat's going on everybody?
Speaker AWelcome back to another episode of We're Not Afraid.
Speaker AOf course I am your host, David McClam.
Speaker ASorry, I have been gone for a long period of time.
Speaker AI told us on my other podcast, I just tell you this briefly.
Speaker AI have been going through multiple deaths in my family.
Speaker AOne of them was my 45 year old sister in law that just dropped dead about two weeks ago.
Speaker ASo I have been gone dead dealing with that and other things.
Speaker ASo now I am back to hopefully finish up We Are Not Afraid the witch hunt of ladonna Humphrey and be done with that.
Speaker AAll right, so if you're following the timeline that I set up, we're right on pace.
Speaker AYes, there has been several detractors that has tried to snatch me off of this pace, but we are not deterring from this pace.
Speaker ASo this is now episode three of five, David Mlan versus Javier Lea.
Speaker ALet me tell you where I am with this one.
Speaker ALet me tell you why I rethought this episode and I'm gonna tell you what we are going to talk about that I feel is a lot more important.
Speaker AThis episode was going to be I was going to compare myself to Javier Leyva and you know, all his accolades and mine and podcasting because everybody says that he's this great podcaster and the whole nine.
Speaker AAs things started happening to me in life, I want to take this in a different direction.
Speaker ASee, because it doesn't matter how many accolades you have.
Speaker AYeah, he every time he sends an email out, he has a little New York Times link and the BBC and Discovery and Netflix.
Speaker ABut if you look at those, you have to ask yourself, are they really Emmy worthy?
Speaker ACan anybody get this particular Emmy?
Speaker AIt's not like it was something.
Speaker AWhat I'm seeing that he did completely on his own.
Speaker AYou know, he was a part of an article.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWould be Dean.
Speaker AHe was a part of a couple of TV shows.
Speaker AI've done that.
Speaker AI've been in full fledged TV shows.
Speaker AI've been in a band.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThose things don't matter in the end.
Speaker ANow I think I'm a far better podcaster than Javier Labor.
Speaker AI'm going to tell you why.
Speaker AI think that because of what I do in podcasting.
Speaker AIt's not about how many episodes we got or what the rankings is.
Speaker AWe're going to discuss that because he likes to tell everybody that he.
Speaker AHe is constantly in the top true crime podcast in the U.S. the UK Canada and Australia.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you exactly what that means, because the top podcasters is either between the top five in the top ten.
Speaker AIf you really want to push that, I'll give you a little caveat.
Speaker AOkay, then.
Speaker AThe top 100 in any given country.
Speaker ANow, every country is going to be different, but you have to post on those charts within those three categories, you consider yourself to be in the top of anything.
Speaker AAnd people's coming means like, well, Javier labor is top over here and you ain't top over there, and you don't do anything.
Speaker AI've never claimed to be top of anything.
Speaker AI'll tell you why I think I am a top at the end and everything.
Speaker AI'm tell you I can prove Ken Javier, but I can prove what I'm about to tell you about me and my podcast and my podcasting career.
Speaker ABut I've never come out and said I'm in the top 100.
Speaker AI've never come out and said I'm in the top 300.
Speaker AI've never come and said I'm in the top five.
Speaker AAs a matter of fact, you had his little trolls trying to dissect my listening score on listen notes and try to break it down all scientifically as to why anything and why this don't mean squat.
Speaker AYes, on listen notes, I'm in the top 2% globally.
Speaker AAnd just to let you guys know, that score really does matter, because unlike Javier Lever, I was interviewing people like Tamron Hall.
Speaker AYes, celebrity Tamron hall, who found me because of my listen note score, who found me because her publishers told me that on the charts they looked at, I was definitely within that top 5100 and in some cases, top 10.
Speaker ASee, because I asked, how did you guys find me?
Speaker AI mean, I didn't go after Tamon Hall.
Speaker ATamar Hall's publicist came after me.
Speaker AAnd I was like, wow, I'm always grateful.
Speaker AI'm always perplexed when these things happen to me.
Speaker ASo before we move on, since we're talking about this top of the charts things, I'm going to dispel that right now.
Speaker ALet's take the number one leading place for podcasts.
Speaker AThat's going to be Apple Podcasts.
Speaker AThis right here, Apple Podcasts.
Speaker AIf you want to know where you truly sit globally and truly what your number is, this is where you come.
Speaker AThis is where a lot of people look now, your boy Javier labor says that he is consistently in the top of true crime podcasts in the US the uk, Canada, and Australia.
Speaker AWell, Apple Podcast reaches all those places.
Speaker AAnd I can tell you right now from my own analytics and for what I've researched, Apple Podcasts is one of the leading places all over the world where people listen to podcasts at.
Speaker ASo let's go live right now to Apple Podcasts, and I'm going to tell you exactly where Javier Lever is on this chart.
Speaker AHe is nowhere in the top 100.
Speaker AThe top 10 shows on Apple Podcast right now.
Speaker AAnd I'll give them to you in order from number 1 to 10 is as follows.
Speaker ADevil in the Desert, Crime Junkie, Date line wondering, morbid 48 hours.
Speaker ACatch me if you can.
Speaker A2020, betrayal, Mr. Ballin podcast.
Speaker ADateline, Missing in America.
Speaker AThose are your top 10.
Speaker ADid you hear me say pretend anywhere in those?
Speaker ANow let's scroll down.
Speaker AHe ain't nowhere in the top 100.
Speaker AI mean, number 20 is rotten.
Speaker AI listen to her.
Speaker AI love her podcast.
Speaker AI watch her on YouTube.
Speaker AShe's the.
Speaker AThe coolest.
Speaker AShe's great.
Speaker ANumber 21 is the Bakersfield 3.
Speaker AOkay, you want me to tell you who the top who ends up in the 100 spot?
Speaker AThe podcast that ends up in the 100 spot, according to Apple, is Generation Y.
Speaker AAnd if I continue to scroll all the way down here, pretend sits in the 200 spot.
Speaker AHe's not in the top.
Speaker AHe should be in the top 100.
Speaker AFor anybody to even say, considered to be in the top if you're not there.
Speaker AAnd a lot of people's looking to come on your podcast, they don't even look past the top 100.
Speaker ASo your boy sits in the 200 spot.
Speaker ANow, I only bring that up because it's been said to me, I'm not even in the 200 spot.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AI'm probably somewhere in the 3, 400.
Speaker AI'm cool with that.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you why I'm cool with that the minute.
Speaker ABecause that is not stopping my show from going anywhere.
Speaker AI just did three interviews where I appeared on somebody's show this morning.
Speaker AAs of this recording, I have tons of people coming to mind in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker ASo the thing is, is how do we do that?
Speaker ABut all that doesn't matter.
Speaker AJavier thinks it does, but because his sycophants gives him money to do these things, Javier's podcast is nothing but full of lies, where mine is nothing but full of truth.
Speaker AI've proven that Time and time again, listen to my show.
Speaker ATrue combo, extraordinary people.
Speaker AYou don't see me bel anybody.
Speaker AYou don't see me cutting down anybody.
Speaker AYou've never heard me or seen me do a case that was full of lies.
Speaker AI've always backed up whatever I said.
Speaker AI gave you the sources if there were any that I needed to give you.
Speaker AI have never tried to run down anyone.
Speaker AI have never tried to kill someone or to have someone kill themselves.
Speaker AJavier labor has done this.
Speaker AHe tried to push ladonna Humphrey to her ends, to where she would just kill herself.
Speaker AThis is what Javier Leyva and Anthony Christopher wanted.
Speaker AThis is what was supposed to happen in the end.
Speaker ASo don't come and tell me what a fabulous guy, podcaster, and full of journalistic integrity that he is.
Speaker ACuz he's not.
Speaker AThere is not any journalistic groups worth their salt that really thrives on integrity that would ever touch Javier Lea.
Speaker AYou need to be careful who you listen to.
Speaker AIf you're not one of his trolls, or as I like to call them, cult members that just wants to come in and harbor on the fact that he's going to give you some tidbits that could ruin somebody's life and they don't even know these people.
Speaker AOkay, this is the sad thing.
Speaker AThe people that he goes after, they're not even known.
Speaker AAnd if they are, they totally disregard Javier Lea.
Speaker AFrank Abagnale is one of them.
Speaker AI have personally talked to Frank Abagail.
Speaker AI still have the email in which Frank Abernell sent me and he says, I never listened to Javier Labor.
Speaker ADon't really care about Javier Lever.
Speaker AJavier Living.
Speaker AGo jump.
Speaker AI have been in this business for more than 30 years.
Speaker AAnd I continue.
Speaker AHe's also told me that he never gave consent for the movie.
Speaker AHe was never consulted on the movie.
Speaker AHe didn't even know the movie was going to be published.
Speaker AI believe him.
Speaker ASo I thought, in light of what's going on, right, people's dropping dead, what is the most important things, all that stuff I just mentioned to you, I don't think is important.
Speaker AAgain, Javier Liver does because he's patting his pockets on hurting other people.
Speaker ASo as far as I'm concerned, that's tainted money.
Speaker ATo me, that money is just as bad as if I took money from a gang member who was out there selling drugs or putting people on the prostitution line.
Speaker AThat money is tainted.
Speaker AIt is bad.
Speaker AHe's tried to do everything from copywriting ladonna's name to trying to profit off her name in the whole nine Yard.
Speaker AThese are the things you guys should see or should know.
Speaker ABut a lot of you guys are just blind because you have no life of your own.
Speaker AOr this is what you use to get off, or this is what makes your day.
Speaker AGet a life.
Speaker AGo do something good.
Speaker ABecause at the end, your legacy is all that matters.
Speaker AAnd I know legacy is such a big word, it's always thrown around, but that is it.
Speaker AYour legacy is what matters.
Speaker AThe day you die, what people thought of you is what matters.
Speaker AAnd there's people I know, they said, I just came to the funeral because I wanted to make sure he was dead.
Speaker AAt this point, that's Javier Lever.
Speaker ABecause what does Javier Lever's legacy say about him?
Speaker AIt says that he's a bought man.
Speaker AIt says that he can be bought to bring anybody's plate to his show.
Speaker AIt shows that he's a liar, that he would tell lies on people just to get ratings or to get money.
Speaker AAnd ladonna Humphrey is not the only one.
Speaker AWe're going to talk about that in a brief minute before we get out of here.
Speaker ASo the David McClan vs. Javier Leyva situation I don't believe is even valid because, see, me and Javier is on two different planes.
Speaker AMy take is I am a self made man.
Speaker AI run my own show.
Speaker AI do what I want to do and I choose to bring truth and healing to people.
Speaker AI don't go on other people's shows to run down somebody on a podcast I created that I lied about.
Speaker AI go on other people's show to tell them my story, my surviving domestic abuse, why I do podcasting to, to uplift the community and to uplift those who feel like that their life is hopeless.
Speaker AI tell stories on my show of true crime that matters cases that no one's heard of, what the importance of it is, and at the end, give a cry to let's keep fighting for justice.
Speaker AYou see, Javier Leyva is no comparison to me.
Speaker AAnd you can disagree all you want to, but I'll be the first one to stand on this hill.
Speaker AI am far much of a better man than Javier Lea will ever, ever be because I choose to stand up for my friends in truth and not get my pockets lined with somebody who's already been accused of rape several times and other things.
Speaker AI have a whole docket on Anthony Christopher and what people has told me.
Speaker AAnd based on what I've been through in the last year, it's all true.
Speaker ALet's talk about this one last thing before I get out of here, because, see, it is quite disturbing.
Speaker AWell, actually, two last things, because I think I did bring up a long time ago, I did a teaser that said, can Javier Lever be a woman beater?
Speaker AI now, on this episode, need to clear up what I meant by that.
Speaker AWhat I'm about to tell you, you won't find because of the fact that he took it down real quick, but by the time he took it down, 61 people, if not more than that, had already seen it.
Speaker AAnd what I'm about to tell you, if you don't believe that everything that he said about ladonna Humphrey was a lie, after I tell you this, then you have bought into the Kool Aid.
Speaker AYou have bought into the cult.
Speaker ABecause what I'm about to tell you sums up everything where he's at.
Speaker AAnd no one, no journalist with integrity, no journalist that's trying to put out a true story, would ever say this.
Speaker AI've also already told you that no journalist that has integrity would never interview one person and then go and interview the next.
Speaker AThey would always interview both sides of the story.
Speaker AA little bit ago, Javier labor decided to put out, I believe on TikTok Instagram, one of them, that he would erase his whole podcast if ladonna Humphrey would agree to come and fight him.
Speaker AWhy not come fight me then?
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause ladonna Humphrey's a woman that you know you can beat.
Speaker AYou went and filed police reports on me that came back to be bogus.
Speaker AYou said that I was going to come whip your ass in your North Carolina home.
Speaker AYour little bitch ass ran to the police, which I never said any of that.
Speaker AWhich I've proven to everybody.
Speaker AThat's why you don't have any case.
Speaker ABut you're gonna run into the police.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker AHe's gonna come.
Speaker AHe said he gonna snatch me out and I'm gonna.
Speaker AHe's gonna whip my ass.
Speaker AWell, why you so scared of that if you're gonna challenge a woman to fight you?
Speaker AIf you wanted to fight, here I am.
Speaker AYou want to do the celebrity boxing style, bro?
Speaker ALet's go hook this up.
Speaker AIt could be all legal.
Speaker AWe can.
Speaker AYou wanna.
Speaker ASince you love money, we can sell tickets, bro.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker AYou want to name it?
Speaker ALet's go.
Speaker AI will get in a ring, I will put on some gloves with you and me, and you can go one to one.
Speaker ABut you don't want that.
Speaker AYou want to fight a woman, which in my eyes, makes you a woman beater, which in my eyes is abuse.
Speaker AAgain, you're not gonna find it because he took it down Real quick.
Speaker ABut you don't think Ladonna Humphrey and her friends saw that.
Speaker AIf you want to fight somebody, bro, here I am.
Speaker ALike I said, set it up.
Speaker ALet's do celebrity style.
Speaker AI'll come to where you is.
Speaker AWant to happen in a bar?
Speaker ALet's go.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker AYou ain't gonna make it very far, I'm gonna tell you that.
Speaker ABut if that's where you at, let me know.
Speaker AOn top of that, let's talk about the many times that I did invite Javier Label to come on my show.
Speaker AThe many times I told him just to beat this case.
Speaker AThe many time I said, bring what you got.
Speaker AI'll bring what I have.
Speaker AThe many times I said, if you think that this is 100, Ladonna Humphrey, come on my show.
Speaker AAnd if you are right, I will.
Speaker AI will erase everything.
Speaker AI haven't put out certain challenges that would.
Speaker AWould cost me a thousand dollars.
Speaker AAnd for me to take my podcast down, go back and listen to all the episodes of wanna.
Speaker AYou'll hear it when people challenge me that I said this, that, and the other thing.
Speaker AAnd I said, I give you a thousand dollars if you can find anywhere.
Speaker AI said that not only will I give you a thousand, but I'll take down my whole podcast.
Speaker AIs my whole podcast still here?
Speaker ALet's remember, he tried to follow me and he tried to have me removed from every podcast host I was at.
Speaker AHe failed.
Speaker ASo you would think that he would leave people alone.
Speaker AJavier labor hasn't contacted me in over a year, but all of a sudden, the other day, I get an email from Javier and I'm going to talk about that here, because it has to deal with the case that he did that.
Speaker AIf he was to even go and read the own Reddit thread on this.
Speaker AHe had people left his show because of it.
Speaker AHe had people that called him a scam artist because of it.
Speaker AHe has people that's asking for more proof.
Speaker AHe's ask people.
Speaker AHe has people asking how come I can't find any information on this case.
Speaker AWhether or not he tells you that this particular case, I'll mention here in a minute, was one of his most successful.
Speaker AIt seems like he's like wwe, because that's what I always hear.
Speaker AWWE will say this was the most successful.
Speaker ANow, when they did the last WrestleMania, I believe that was the most successful.
Speaker ABut he said, oh, he said about Donald's case, this has been the most successful season I've ever had.
Speaker AHe said the same thing about the case that made him.
Speaker ASo I get an email from him.
Speaker AAnd he starts out that says, it's come to my attention that you're planning on airing a hit piece on me for cooperating with prosecutors on the latest charges against Rick Fernandez.
Speaker ANow, I want you to understand and read between the lines of this mail, because it is my belief, and it is the belief of many others, that Javier Leyva is part of, of the biggest reason that Rick and Tanya Fernandez ever faced charges that he was working behind the scenes with not only the prosecutor, but also the detective that was in charge.
Speaker ANow, I'm going to talk to you a little bit more about the detective in a minute, because I'm going to give you something that Javier Lea never, ever, ever disclosed to you or wanted to.
Speaker AAnd if you're listening and you're from that old crew that was a part of this case that you listen to the pretend you want to hear what I'm about to tell you about the detective, but let's get to this email.
Speaker AI welcome all criticism about my journalistic integrity.
Speaker AWe'll, we'll, we'll just leave that alone.
Speaker AHowever, I had no choice but to comply with the prosecutors.
Speaker AYou should know who you're dealing with.
Speaker AThese people were actively harassing an innocent doctor even while they were facing prosecution.
Speaker AI've included the new charges in this email.
Speaker AYou can't claim ignorance on this one, Javier Lea.
Speaker ANow, let's back up to the ignorance part.
Speaker AI've never claimed ignorance on anything.
Speaker AI think I proved 100% Ladonna Humphrey's case.
Speaker ASo if you're trying to say that I'm claiming ignorance because Ladonna Humphreys has duped me into believing her.
Speaker ALadonna Humphrey is duping, believing nothing.
Speaker AI treated her, unlike you, like any other journalist would, and said, give me the goods.
Speaker AAnd she did.
Speaker ASecond, I've dug into this case.
Speaker AYes, I have dug into the case.
Speaker AI will say this here, loud and proud.
Speaker ARick and Tanya Fernandez has nothing to do with what I decide to do.
Speaker ABut I started to look into this case probably about a couple months into the Ladonna's case, because it was, as he says, his biggest case.
Speaker AAnd then I wanted to see what the public was saying that was following him.
Speaker AAnd this is what they were saying, right?
Speaker AThey wasn't saying, man, this, you know, they didn't get it.
Speaker AThey were confused.
Speaker AThey didn't know what was going on.
Speaker AJavier Lever didn't do that great of a job.
Speaker ANow, of course, you have the people that some people that said, oh, yes, yes, yes, he did an excellent job there's people that left the podcast because of this.
Speaker AThere's people that left because he started charging all the time.
Speaker AAll of that.
Speaker AYou can go look it up for yourself.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker APeople's wondering what prosecution went.
Speaker ANow all of a sudden, new charges just sprung up on these people.
Speaker AAnd Javier is telling you, yes, I worked with the prosecutors.
Speaker AI had to comply.
Speaker ANo, you didn't.
Speaker ANo, you do not.
Speaker AThere is an amendment in the Constitution called the Fifth.
Speaker AAnd even if you get subpoenaed to court, you can sit on the stand and say, I plead the Fifth.
Speaker ADon't anybody ever have to comply with anybody.
Speaker AIn my opinion, Javier has been working with the prosecutors and with the detectives.
Speaker ANow, I don't know who told you that I was planning on airing a hit piece.
Speaker AFor one thing, Javier, running hit pieces is your thing.
Speaker AThat's what you do.
Speaker AI run truth pieces.
Speaker AI don't run hit pieces on people.
Speaker AAnd you should know me, over the last year, there is nothing I've ever done to you or said about you that I've never came here publicly and told you what I was going to do.
Speaker ASo if I was going to run a hit piece on y', all to say, you know what?
Speaker AI follow this hobby lab.
Speaker AI'm running a hit piece.
Speaker ADon't test me on that, though.
Speaker AI. I found enough information on you that if I really want to be you and slip down to your level, I indeed could run a hit piece.
Speaker ABut that's not what I'm here to do.
Speaker ASo, no, I'm not running a hit piece on you.
Speaker AYes, I have looked into the stalker series.
Speaker AYes, I know who Rick and Tanya Fernandez is.
Speaker AYes, I am still considering running a story on this case, mainly because of what I found, what I'm about to read here, and they have nothing to do with it.
Speaker AAnd it won't be ran here because like I said, there's two episodes left of this particular podcast right here, and we're done.
Speaker ASo everybody's got to do it.
Speaker AI'm gonna do it.
Speaker AIt won't be here.
Speaker AIt would be on True Combo Store people.
Speaker ABut let me read to you that if you have been following Javier's coverage of the stalker series, this is the one thing he didn't tell you, and I know he didn't, because I listened to as much as I can stomach, but I listened to the detective interview and all of that.
Speaker AHe's never mentioned this.
Speaker ASo all of you that's listen to his coverage and you are still wondering.
Speaker AI want you to perk up your ears.
Speaker AAnd then maybe you're going to agree with me that something's not right in Whoville when it comes to this case.
Speaker AThere is an article that was put out by Fox 10 Phoenix.
Speaker AThis was published November 12, 2015.
Speaker ALet me read it to you.
Speaker AThe title of the article is Man's Life Changed Forever After Police Arrest Wrong Man.
Speaker AIt's a fear we all have.
Speaker ABeing arrested for a crime you did not commit.
Speaker AWhat if the crime was murder?
Speaker AIt's been said that our justice system, while imperfect, is still the best on earth.
Speaker ABut as you'll see, mistakes do happen.
Speaker AOne mistake cost a Valley man his freedom and destroyed his life.
Speaker AThe first thing I knew something was going on is when the cops flew through my door.
Speaker ACops entered my apartment, about seven of them with guns drawn on me.
Speaker AI ran back into my room and they called me every name in the book.
Speaker AI didn't know what was happening.
Speaker AI just walk outside and it's like a horror movie.
Speaker AThere's blood on the ground, blood going down the stairs, blood on the rail, said Denny Rizzo.
Speaker AThey told me like, you know what happened, Mr. Rizzo?
Speaker AYou just stabbed this expletive and you're going to jail forever, said Rizzo.
Speaker AIt was midnight on September 11, 2013.
Speaker AA victim lays dying on a sidewalk at a midtown Phoenix apartment.
Speaker AA trail of blood leads up to a flight of stairs in apartment A11.
Speaker APolice responding and looking for the killer busts through the door and shattered a man's life.
Speaker A35 year old Denny Rizzo returned to the scene of the crime with Fox 10.
Speaker AHow does he feel being back?
Speaker AYou know, it's real scary.
Speaker AIt takes me right back to the night I was arrested for murder.
Speaker AA murder I didn't commit.
Speaker AHe said.
Speaker ARizzo was a former loan officer with Wells Fargo bank, had no criminal record.
Speaker AThat is until he was accused of murder.
Speaker AIt destroyed my life.
Speaker AThis is where my life ended, said Rizzo.
Speaker ASo how does an innocent man end up in jail?
Speaker AIt started in the courtyard of Rizzo's then apartment complex.
Speaker ATwo men argued over drugs.
Speaker AThere was a struggle and 33 year old Michael Collins was stabbed under his left arm.
Speaker AThat severed an artery.
Speaker AWhile bleeding Profusely, Collins walked 80ft down a pathway and up the stairs looking for help, banging on doors, but no one answers.
Speaker AHe stumbled down the stairs and collapsed face down on the sidewalk.
Speaker AAt the hospital before losing consciousness, officers ask Collins who stabbed him.
Speaker AHe says, frankie.
Speaker AThat name will haunt Rizzo for the rest of his life.
Speaker AI never did know Michael Collins.
Speaker AI never touched this Guy never knew this person, never did nothing to this person, said Rizzo.
Speaker APolice questioned Rizzo looking for a suspect named Frankie.
Speaker AOf 11 residents interviewed, two think Frankie lives in apartment A11, Rizzo's apartment.
Speaker APolice entered Rizzo's apartment without a warrant, but after questioning him, most officers seem convinced he had nothing to do with the crime.
Speaker ABut one detective persists.
Speaker AMr. Rizzo, we see you don't have any felonies, no misdemeanors, nothing.
Speaker AWe're very sorry.
Speaker AI'm going to let you go upstairs and go back to bed.
Speaker ADetective Hardena then says, wait a minute, this is the guy.
Speaker AHe has blood by his door, down the stairs, and he was very persistent, said Rizo.
Speaker ADetective Anthony hardena is an 11 year veteran of the Phoenix Police Department.
Speaker AHardena says, we're not just going to let him go.
Speaker AThis is the murderer right here.
Speaker AHe kept calling me Frank.
Speaker AI say, I'm Denny Joseph Rizzo junior.
Speaker AFrank is not my name.
Speaker AThe detective was persistent here and he was so persistent and nasty, so gung ho.
Speaker ADescribed Rizzo blood by Rizzo's door and two residents who think he is Frankie.
Speaker AThat's good enough.
Speaker AAnd police arrest Rizzo.
Speaker AI'm like, you know what, dude?
Speaker AYou made a big mistake.
Speaker AYou guys made a big mistake.
Speaker AYou got the wrong guy, he said.
Speaker AHe goes, well, you know what?
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker AYou're going to have the rest of your life behind bars in jail to think about what you did tonight, said Rizzo.
Speaker AStill dressed in his bed clothes, Rizzo is hauled downtown to the police station and interrogated by Detective Hardena.
Speaker AHe repeatedly asked to take a polygraph, but none is given.
Speaker AGive me a lie detector test, take my fingerprints.
Speaker AI have no record.
Speaker ANever.
Speaker AI do not have nothing to do with this.
Speaker ANothing.
Speaker AThis is my life, said Rizzo on a police recording.
Speaker ABut grow's level of incompetence here is stunning, said Michael Manning.
Speaker AManning specializes in civil rights cases involving police.
Speaker AHow thin was the evidence they used to throw him in?
Speaker AIt was beyond paper thin.
Speaker AIt was almost non existent, said Manning.
Speaker AAt Rizzo's apartment, investigators collect samples of anything that appears to be blood.
Speaker ANone of it matches the victim.
Speaker ABut those results won't come back from the Phoenix Crime Lab for almost five months.
Speaker ARizzo is then charged and booked into jail for seven and a half months.
Speaker ARizzo is kept in custody at the fourth Avenue jail.
Speaker AThey kept trying to get me to sign plea bargains.
Speaker AWhat am I going to sign a plea bargain for?
Speaker AWhat am I going to do 10 years for I'm innocent.
Speaker AI'm not ever coming out.
Speaker AI came to terms with it, said Rizzo.
Speaker AThen one day, without any explanation, he was released.
Speaker AThey said, roll up your stuff, you're out of here.
Speaker AWe got the wrong guy, he said.
Speaker ABy then, everything he owns is gone and with a second degree murder charge on his record, no one will hire him.
Speaker AI haven't been at a job more than 24 hours and they tell me thank you for your time, goodbye and don't give me any reason, said Rizzo.
Speaker AIn seven and a half months he lost everything, is homeless and was forced to live in a shelter.
Speaker AIt can happen to anybody here and that's why the police have to be so careful here, said Rizzo.
Speaker AYou're gonna make mistakes and we all make must forgive those innocent mistakes that are going to happen.
Speaker ABut growth, incompetence, when you hold the power to ruin a life, cannot be tolerated that this man's life is done, said Manny.
Speaker ANow Rizzo is still trying to put back together the pieces of his shattered life.
Speaker AGone in the night.
Speaker AA lifetime of work is gone forever.
Speaker AWith my faith in God, I'm working to get things going in the right direction.
Speaker AWhether there ever be the same again.
Speaker AI don't think so, said Rizzo.
Speaker APhoenix police still haven't caught the man who killed Michael Collins.
Speaker ASeven months after Rizzo was cleared, silent witness went public with a reward Looking for information in the case.
Speaker ARizzo is suing the city of Phoenix and police department for gross negligence, false imprisonment and malicious prosecution.
Speaker AThe police department is not commenting on the case and Rizzo however, still is looking for someone that will hire him again.
Speaker AI have to dig further into this, but this is back in 2015.
Speaker AIf you guys know the name Hardena, that is the same detective that that is on the Rick and Tanya Fernandez.
Speaker AAs you know at the stalker case, he's crooked and it has been said that the division of Phoenix police he's in is also crooked.
Speaker ASo if the question I leave you with on this is this.
Speaker AIf he did this to this guy, Mr. Denny Rizzo, what makes you think that he isn't or won't do the same thing to Rick and Tanya Fernandez?
Speaker AAnd your boy Javier Lever is all in the middle of it for the cloud and the fame.
Speaker AYou guys think about that.
Speaker AIn closing, I will say it again.
Speaker AAs far as I'm concerned, there's no comparison between me and Javier Lever.
Speaker AI have integrity.
Speaker AI do care about my journalistic career.
Speaker AWe want to call it that.
Speaker AI care what light my podcast is in I don't want people to stop him coming on my show because of the lies I put out there.
Speaker AI will go to my grave and tell you I've already proven it, but I'll go to my grave on anyways, ladonna Humphrey is 100% innocent.
Speaker AShe did nothing that they said she ever did.
Speaker AThe question you ask yourself is if she did, where is the police record?
Speaker AIt seems like that everybody that's bringing you this story has some kind of criminal record.
Speaker AYes, even down to Javier Lever, no matter how big or how small that it is.
Speaker AYet the person you are accusing, the person you tried to commit have commit suicide, Javier, the person that you tried to have her job taking from her, the person that you're probably sad is still breathing, doesn't have not one drop of a criminal record.
Speaker AI want to talk about Anthony Christopher a brief minute because I find this the pot calling Kello Black.
Speaker ASee now he's whining on social media.
Speaker AAnd yes, I'll probably put a big dent in this business.
Speaker AHe might tell you that I haven't.
Speaker ABut yeah, people listen to this all over Arkansas.
Speaker AI've been there, remember?
Speaker ASo I know how small these areas are.
Speaker ASo he posted, I think it was Instagram the other day.
Speaker AHonest question, do you think people will hurt and attack others the way they did if they knew their actions could result in someone else's self harm?
Speaker AI am perplexed at the links people will go to to try to make another human being feel terrible about themselves.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AThis is what he's done with Javier labor for the last year.
Speaker AThis is what he's posting, what he feels like self harming himself.
Speaker AI don't feel sorry for him because he deserves to get everything he has coming to him.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AYou're gonna ask the question and say that you are perplexed of the lens people will go to to try to make another human being feel terrible.
Speaker AIsn't that what you, Javier just spent the last year doing?
Speaker AIsn't that what you are continuously to do?
Speaker AYou couldn't break ladonna Humphrey so now you feel like you got to keep on.
Speaker ASo I'm gonna add this to the pot before we go.
Speaker AI told you guys before that Anthony Christopher Javier Leva stalks wherever Ladonna Humphrey is doing.
Speaker AWell, there was a post, not even a post that Ladonna even controls.
Speaker ARight, it's by somebody else on the only name Emily Rose Lucas.
Speaker ANow this is about this girl that's missing.
Speaker AYou would think he'd have the common decency to Keep his little ass to himself or whatever he has to say not to say it.
Speaker AThis has nothing to do with ladonna Humphrey.
Speaker ANothing posts about her has to do with.
Speaker AThey're trying to find this young girl who is missing.
Speaker AHere's this fool.
Speaker AHe's following Adonna so he leaves a post as himself.
Speaker ADon't want to take away from this poor little girl.
Speaker ABut be careful.
Speaker AThe woman running the page is a known predator herself.
Speaker AThere's an entire podcast about her and many lives she has ruined along the way and left a link to pretend.
Speaker ASo when you people say he ain't stalking her, everywhere this woman goes or post, he shows up.
Speaker ANot gonna talk about it here, but we gonna talk about, you know, the whole entire Easter egg hunt episode, which is ridiculous.
Speaker AThat's going to come in the last one.
Speaker ALike I said, I got plenty to say in the last.
Speaker ABut I have to bring this up now because there's your proof.
Speaker AWhy are you calling the killer black?
Speaker AThe Donald Humphries have done anything to you other than blew the whistle on you because you was committing Medicaid fraud.
Speaker AAnd nobody can prove that you wasn't.
Speaker AJust your county dropped the ball, Mr.
Speaker AI should be in jail.
Speaker AThere is a song, there's many songs I could contribute to this and you'll hear some more of them, but I had the privilege of going to see Jelly Roll.
Speaker AJelly Roll is on tour with Post Malone and he just came through here, La Sci Fi Stadium about a week ago with Post.
Speaker AI've always liked Jelly Roll because of the story which he tells, the.
Speaker AThe truthness behind it.
Speaker AYou know, he was an addict.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe was doing bad things, the whole nine.
Speaker AThere is a song that he just released.
Speaker AIt's his new single and I think it fits Javier label Anthony Christopher very well.
Speaker ALet me read you the lyrics in closing.
Speaker AThe name of the song is called Liar.
Speaker ANow, like I said, we'll get into it because there's like another couple songs, jelly rolls released that says Javier.
Speaker ALeave his name all over him.
Speaker AHere's what the lyric says.
Speaker AHe says, I let you drive around my mind.
Speaker AI can't count the times you made me feel like I'm nothing.
Speaker APlay me like a fool, like a fool saying drink another whiskey, pop another pill.
Speaker AMoney makes you happy.
Speaker AHeaven isn't real.
Speaker AYou won't find nobody to love you because your heart's too broke.
Speaker ANow I know you ain't nothing but a liar.
Speaker AYeah, I walk right out the fire.
Speaker AYeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground.
Speaker ABut I'm only going higher.
Speaker AI can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.
Speaker AYou try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.
Speaker AOh and now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.
Speaker ACause I know you're nothing but a liar.
Speaker AYou burned me one too many times like a devil in disguise, hiding your true colors.
Speaker AJust leave me alone, keep leading me on saying drink another whiskey, pop another pill, money makes you happy.
Speaker AHeaven isn't real.
Speaker AYou won't find nobody to love you because your heart's too broke.
Speaker ANow I know you ain't nothing but a liar.
Speaker AYeah, I walk right out the fire.
Speaker AYeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground, but I'm only going higher.
Speaker AI can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.
Speaker AYou try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.
Speaker AOh and now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.
Speaker ACuz I know you're nothing but a liar.
Speaker AIf I was doing what you do, then you would swear I poisoned you.
Speaker AYou're nothing but a liar.
Speaker AYeah, I walk right out the fire.
Speaker AYeah, you try to keep me down, try to put me underground but I'm only going higher.
Speaker AI can hear you in my head, in my bed when I'm dreaming.
Speaker AYou try to be my friend, but you're blowing smoke.
Speaker AOh and I now I ain't scared of telling you where you can go.
Speaker ACause I know you're nothing but a liar.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what Javier Lever is.
Speaker AAll of this stuff, all of these lyrics go hand in hand with the We Are Not Afraid podcast and what he has tried to do to Ladonna Humphrey.
Speaker ABut guess what, Javier Podcast of the Podcaster.
Speaker AOnce again I'm gonna give you that big old word you hate to hear.
Speaker AYou failed foreign guys.
Speaker AStay tuned into this episode.
Speaker AThe only thing I can tell you if you have a loved one or someone who's doing evil like Javier Leyva and Anthony Christopher, life is too short.
Speaker AI just told you my sister in law dropped dead two weeks ago at 45.
Speaker ANothing was wrong with her, just gone.
Speaker AEvery time you open up your newspaper, you got people that is dead.
Speaker AI know it's celebrity, but there's been two, three a day.
Speaker AIt feels like for the last two, three months.
Speaker AThe time to stop doing evil is now.
Speaker AMake amends to that person.
Speaker ATell the people you love that you love them and don't ever say false things about anybody for a dollar.
Speaker AEspecially if you know that it's not true.
Speaker AAll right, so we're on pace.
Speaker AThe next episode you'll hear from us will be the ladonna Humphrey episode.
Speaker ADon't know when that's coming.
Speaker AHopefully the next week or so.
Speaker ABut we are in the middle of planning my sister in law's memorial and then that will take place.
Speaker ASo hopefully I get that all to you soon.
Speaker ABut yes, we're now going to episode four, the interview with Ladonna Humphrey.
Speaker AAnd after that will be the last one where I'm gonna come and tell you everything that I feel about the potential podcast.
Speaker AWhat I think about wanna, which is we're not afraid the people involved in that.
Speaker AAnd then we're going to go, you want your popcorn and your whatever you drink.
Speaker AReady for that one?
Speaker AThat may be a a long episode.
Speaker AWe ending it on a bang.
Speaker AAll right, thank you guys for joining me today.
Speaker AAlways remember, although it does not feel like it right now, love always conquers hate.
Speaker AI'll catch you guys the next time.
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Speaker AWe Are Not Afraid is hosted and Produced by David McClam Photography is done by the talented Connie Blott of SLB Photography.
Speaker AIntro Outro music Missing Evidence by Mark Fabian.
Speaker AThank you for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one.